we routed the taliban, we did not defeat them, and then we left and went to iraq. so president obamaad to put a plan in place and a timetable to get it done. so it may not be as fast as we woulall ke, t the ct the cost of this war, in terms of our human treasure, the most important part, our young people, the casualties to their lives and to their physical well-beingnd their mental -- it's all physical, mental or not. so, yeah, i do think that this is taking to us a place where we should really understand that war, as a resolution of conflict, is an obsolete idea. and we should take the debate to a bigger place, a bigger place. i'll never get over the fact that presideustooks into war on a false premise, that he knew was false, that his administration knew was false, for a different agenda, and look how long we stayed in iraq. >> whether or not it ends up becoming an issue in the presidential race, is this a matteror congress to decide, in terms of when we leave, befo the electorer esidt's call? >> well, it's a combination. because when we won in '06, one of the bi